Title: Bioethics education for informed citizens across cultures

Report 2 from China 

Meeting date:	2003/07/07
Time:	13:30~16:30
Place:	The Middle School Attached to Beijing Normal University
Presentation by: Baoqi Su
Language: Chinese

Flow of the meeting

A. Introduction
The second meeting follows up the first one held on 17 June, 2003 (China report 1). Distributions of the proposal and 4 chapters, and cold drinks. Participants were 7 plenary teachers of Dept. of Biological Sciences (School Attached to Beijing Normal Univ. and He Ping Men Middle School), 6 of whom will join the project, and the Dean of the Department. Teacher Gu introduced me and the plan and desire to others briefly.

B. PowerPoint presentation
Based on the powerpoint presentation used in Report 1 from Japan, a modified version in English and Chinese was made and presented by Baoqi Su. The talk took almost 1 hour (should have be shorten for several slides, I think now). The ppt file was sent to each person. Each person also had the 2nd edition versions of chapters 1-4 and introduction to the textbook.

C. The discussion and plan
1.	The Dean and the teachers welcome this new course, and have interest in it.
2.	Will overcome the difficulties to take this course and try to do it well, the plenary teachers of the Dept. of Biological Sciences (7) will participate in teaching it, including me will be 8.
3.	For now one class is confirmed at the school attached to Beijing Normal Univ. and will consider the class in another school. A little scaled back from report 1, but uncertain at present.
4.	Teachers think it is time to "Just do it!" To follow on from report 1, the primary plan as follows (chapter and teacher):
Chapter 1 Making choices, diversity and bioethics 	- Baoqi Su
Chapter 2 Ethical limits of animal use				- Lei Li
Chapter 3 Genetic Privacy and information 			- Jinghua Fu
Chapter 4 Brain death							- Li Kuang
AIDS testing									- Zhuo
GMOs											- Yongmei Gu
Organ transplantation								- Yuan YU
Consent for joining a clinical trial of a new drug	- Jianzhi Li

5. The new term will start from 1 September, and for one alternative course it will be sustained for 14-15 weeks. Each teacher would like to be responsible for 2 chapters. Will use this textbook, with some necessary materials in Chinese. Will base on the planned chapters, but may decide the precise content by themselves. The teachers would like to receive the chapters as soon as possible to start preparing.

D. Some questions (in addition to those in report 1)
1. Suitability of the English materials, are these difficult to students? Are these enough for preparing for teaching?
2. If before this course, the students have not yet learned the related biological knowledge, then it will be difficult to discuss the ethical issues, and will take longer time to introduce the basic knowledge to the students…
3. Whether is it necessary, or could each teacher translate the chapter into Chinese with some changes, and in the future to form a textbook in Chinese and to find publisher (copyright?).
DM - In the spirit of the project the Chinese chapters (and Japanese and others) would be on-line for free download. In the case that a hard copy is made to the copyright would be discussed with the publisher, who could have copyright for the printed edition in that country.

E. Opinions and suggestions:
1.	Please to encourage the authors to finish the chapters as soon as possible, and after editing send to us. It is very important to receive the chapters soon. And it is the most basic thing to decide whether we could start the trial teaching from Sept. or not. 
2.	The two schools were separate schools before, however, now have decided to be united to one school, and keep the name of the former one. The students at present are still at academic different levels. The teachers do not mind to teach the same chapters to 2 classes, however, they will see whether there are periods for alternative courses (at higher level), and whether there are students to choose this course in English.
3. The English language level is quite different between the students (between schools of different levels, also within the same school). We are also worrying that some students may have interests in Biology or this new course, but will hesitate to choose, because of their English. 
DM – Having different ability classes in the same school is not uncommon, as will be seen from Japan report 2. This is especially true with English language level.

4. After I receive any information I will transfer it to them, including the coming chapters. Three teachers joined the listserve.

Report prepared by Baoqi Su, feedback by Darryl Macer.